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    <description>Dane Carlson explores the strategies, ideas, and insights that are driving economic development forward into the future.  You'll hear new insights from passionate ED's about their successes and struggles, and you'll learn from attraction and retention experts about how to apply actionable strategies inside your EDO.  We'll help take your organization, your community, and your career to the next level.
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  <title>198: Dane With Joe Barker on the Rural Strong Podcast</title>
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  <itunes:title>Dane With Joe Barker on the Rural Strong Podcast</itunes:title>
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  <description>On this special crossover episode, Dane Carlson joins Joe Barker on the Rural Strong Podcast to talk about Sitehunt, entrepreneurship, and the power of AI to help rural and small-community economic developers compete at scale.
In this episode of Rural Strong, Joe and Dane explore how AI tools like Sitehunt automate site analysis, RFI responses, and data collection — giving small EDOs the same analytical firepower as their big-city counterparts. Dane shares his unlikely journey from early-2000s internet entrepreneur to chamber president in the Sierra Nevada foothills to Texas economic-development director to startup CEO. They discuss why feedback matters more than features, why execution beats ideas every time, and why even the smallest communities need a modern website, a plan, and the willingness to pivot.
Dane also unpacks how child care, housing, and workforce shortages have become the new pillars of competitiveness, why AI is best thought of as a “dim-witted but persistent intern,” and how rural leaders can use technology to take back the information advantage from site selectors.
Like this show? Please leave us a review here (https://econdevshow.com/rate-this-podcast/) — even one sentence helps! 
Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Treat AI as an intern, not an oracle. Feed it data and context to get useful answers.
Launch before you're ready. Iterate in public and let real feedback drive improvement.
Build a website that sells your community. Clear contact info and photos matter more than fancy graphics.
Use LinkedIn as your industry newspaper. Learn from and connect with other EDOs daily.
Start a local podcast. It's the best modern BRE tool and a non-threatening way to engage businesses.
Plan but pivot. No plan survives first contact with reality; stay nimble.
Address child care and housing head-on. They're workforce issues now, not social ones.
Prioritize execution over ideas. A mediocre idea well executed beats a brilliant idea untried.
Save cash for the long haul. Entrepreneurs fail more often from running out of runway than from bad concepts.
Ask for feedback early and often. It's how both products and communities get better. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>On this special crossover episode, Dane Carlson joins Joe Barker on the Rural Strong Podcast to talk about Sitehunt, entrepreneurship, and the power of AI to help rural and small-community economic developers compete at scale.</p>

<p>In this episode of Rural Strong, Joe and Dane explore how AI tools like Sitehunt automate site analysis, RFI responses, and data collection — giving small EDOs the same analytical firepower as their big-city counterparts. Dane shares his unlikely journey from early-2000s internet entrepreneur to chamber president in the Sierra Nevada foothills to Texas economic-development director to startup CEO. They discuss why feedback matters more than features, why execution beats ideas every time, and why even the smallest communities need a modern website, a plan, and the willingness to pivot.</p>

<p>Dane also unpacks how child care, housing, and workforce shortages have become the new pillars of competitiveness, why AI is best thought of as a “dim-witted but persistent intern,” and how rural leaders can use technology to take back the information advantage from site selectors.</p>

<p><a href="https://econdevshow.com/rate-this-podcast/" rel="nofollow">Like this show? Please leave us a review here</a> — even one sentence helps! </p>

<h3>Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers</h3>

<ol>
<li><strong>Treat AI as an intern, not an oracle.</strong> Feed it data and context to get useful answers.</li>
<li><strong>Launch before you&#39;re ready.</strong> Iterate in public and let real feedback drive improvement.</li>
<li><strong>Build a website that sells your community.</strong> Clear contact info and photos matter more than fancy graphics.</li>
<li><strong>Use LinkedIn as your industry newspaper.</strong> Learn from and connect with other EDOs daily.</li>
<li><strong>Start a local podcast.</strong> It&#39;s the best modern BRE tool and a non-threatening way to engage businesses.</li>
<li><strong>Plan but pivot.</strong> No plan survives first contact with reality; stay nimble.</li>
<li><strong>Address child care and housing head-on.</strong> They&#39;re workforce issues now, not social ones.</li>
<li><strong>Prioritize execution over ideas.</strong> A mediocre idea well executed beats a brilliant idea untried.</li>
<li><strong>Save cash for the long haul.</strong> Entrepreneurs fail more often from running out of runway than from bad concepts.</li>
<li><strong>Ask for feedback early and often.</strong> It&#39;s how both products and communities get better.</li>
</ol><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://sitehunt.io">Sitehunt</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://sitehunt.io">If your property data is scattered or out of date, you're losing projects.

Sitehunt gives economic developers an AI-powered property database and instant RFI responses.

Schedule a demo today!</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="RuralStrong - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@RuralStrong">RuralStrong - YouTube</a></li><li><a title="Dane Carlson | LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danecarlson/?ref=econdevshow.com">Dane Carlson | LinkedIn</a></li><li><a title="Sitehunt" rel="nofollow" href="https://sitehunt.io/?ref=econdevshow.com">Sitehunt</a></li><li><a title="Joe Barker | LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-barker-9108798/">Joe Barker | LinkedIn</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>On this special crossover episode, Dane Carlson joins Joe Barker on the Rural Strong Podcast to talk about Sitehunt, entrepreneurship, and the power of AI to help rural and small-community economic developers compete at scale.</p>

<p>In this episode of Rural Strong, Joe and Dane explore how AI tools like Sitehunt automate site analysis, RFI responses, and data collection — giving small EDOs the same analytical firepower as their big-city counterparts. Dane shares his unlikely journey from early-2000s internet entrepreneur to chamber president in the Sierra Nevada foothills to Texas economic-development director to startup CEO. They discuss why feedback matters more than features, why execution beats ideas every time, and why even the smallest communities need a modern website, a plan, and the willingness to pivot.</p>

<p>Dane also unpacks how child care, housing, and workforce shortages have become the new pillars of competitiveness, why AI is best thought of as a “dim-witted but persistent intern,” and how rural leaders can use technology to take back the information advantage from site selectors.</p>

<p><a href="https://econdevshow.com/rate-this-podcast/" rel="nofollow">Like this show? Please leave us a review here</a> — even one sentence helps! </p>

<h3>Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers</h3>

<ol>
<li><strong>Treat AI as an intern, not an oracle.</strong> Feed it data and context to get useful answers.</li>
<li><strong>Launch before you&#39;re ready.</strong> Iterate in public and let real feedback drive improvement.</li>
<li><strong>Build a website that sells your community.</strong> Clear contact info and photos matter more than fancy graphics.</li>
<li><strong>Use LinkedIn as your industry newspaper.</strong> Learn from and connect with other EDOs daily.</li>
<li><strong>Start a local podcast.</strong> It&#39;s the best modern BRE tool and a non-threatening way to engage businesses.</li>
<li><strong>Plan but pivot.</strong> No plan survives first contact with reality; stay nimble.</li>
<li><strong>Address child care and housing head-on.</strong> They&#39;re workforce issues now, not social ones.</li>
<li><strong>Prioritize execution over ideas.</strong> A mediocre idea well executed beats a brilliant idea untried.</li>
<li><strong>Save cash for the long haul.</strong> Entrepreneurs fail more often from running out of runway than from bad concepts.</li>
<li><strong>Ask for feedback early and often.</strong> It&#39;s how both products and communities get better.</li>
</ol><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://sitehunt.io">Sitehunt</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://sitehunt.io">If your property data is scattered or out of date, you're losing projects.

Sitehunt gives economic developers an AI-powered property database and instant RFI responses.

Schedule a demo today!</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="RuralStrong - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@RuralStrong">RuralStrong - YouTube</a></li><li><a title="Dane Carlson | LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danecarlson/?ref=econdevshow.com">Dane Carlson | LinkedIn</a></li><li><a title="Sitehunt" rel="nofollow" href="https://sitehunt.io/?ref=econdevshow.com">Sitehunt</a></li><li><a title="Joe Barker | LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-barker-9108798/">Joe Barker | LinkedIn</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>101: Entrepreneurs are Transforming Economic Development with Courtney Zaugg</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2023 00:15:00 -0500</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Dane Carlson talks with Courtney Zaugg in a profound conversation about the intersection of entrepreneurship and economic development. The discussion centers on systemic change, entrepreneurial ecosystems, limitations of traditional venture capital, and the potential of innovative partnerships.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>45:21</itunes:duration>
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  <description> In this riveting episode of the Econ Dev Show Podcast, host Dane Carlson chats with Courtney Zaugg, an industry expert in entrepreneurship and economic development. The two kick off their conversation with an exploration into the unique mindset of entrepreneurship, particularly the necessity of adaptability and the acceptance of failure. As they delve further, the discussion uncovers the limitations and inaccessibility of traditional venture capital for the majority of startups. Courtney offers insightful solutions, emphasizing the role of local banks and Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFIs) in helping startups become bankable. 
 The conversation also takes a turn towards economic development, where Courtney expresses optimism about the industry's evolution and advocates for systemic change, particularly in distressed and rural communities. She further discusses potential partnerships between philanthropy, economic development, and entrepreneurship, introducing 'impact funds' as an innovative funding vehicle. Courtney insists on the importance of creating a well-structured entrepreneurial ecosystem and suggests practical steps communities can take to foster this development. The episode concludes with a discussion on the evolving landscape of higher education, and a reflection on Courtney's journey in pushing for systemic change.
Like this show? Please leave us a review here (https://econdevshow.com/rate-this-podcast/) — even one sentence helps!  Special Guest: Courtney Zaugg.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this riveting episode of the Econ Dev Show Podcast, host Dane Carlson chats with Courtney Zaugg, an industry expert in entrepreneurship and economic development. The two kick off their conversation with an exploration into the unique mindset of entrepreneurship, particularly the necessity of adaptability and the acceptance of failure. As they delve further, the discussion uncovers the limitations and inaccessibility of traditional venture capital for the majority of startups. Courtney offers insightful solutions, emphasizing the role of local banks and Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFIs) in helping startups become bankable. </p>

<p>The conversation also takes a turn towards economic development, where Courtney expresses optimism about the industry&#39;s evolution and advocates for systemic change, particularly in distressed and rural communities. She further discusses potential partnerships between philanthropy, economic development, and entrepreneurship, introducing &#39;impact funds&#39; as an innovative funding vehicle. Courtney insists on the importance of creating a well-structured entrepreneurial ecosystem and suggests practical steps communities can take to foster this development. The episode concludes with a discussion on the evolving landscape of higher education, and a reflection on Courtney&#39;s journey in pushing for systemic change.</p>

<p><a href="https://econdevshow.com/rate-this-podcast/" rel="nofollow">Like this show? Please leave us a review here</a> — even one sentence helps! </p><p>Special Guest: Courtney Zaugg.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.kathoderay.com">KathodeRay Media, Inc.</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.kathoderay.com">![KathodeRay](https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/f078f684-f72f-4a43-957d-de3aff69810b/pIhKskzG.jpg)

[KathodeRay](https://kathoderay.com) is a full-service marketing agency that connects government organizations to their community. This small (but mighty) woman owned and operated marketing agency can help your community thrive. They use tried and true methods that will connect your organization to your residents using social, digital and traditional media. [https://kathoderay.com](https://kathoderay.com)</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Courtney Zaugg, CEcD, EDP | LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneyzaugg/">Courtney Zaugg, CEcD, EDP | LinkedIn</a></li><li><a title="Courtney Zaugg, Founder to Founder - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyg1JxCAqQo">Courtney Zaugg, Founder to Founder - YouTube</a></li><li><a title="Ambassador Profile: Courtney Zaugg - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vd7OHgruUE">Ambassador Profile: Courtney Zaugg - YouTube</a></li><li><a title="Designing Your Own Life with Courtney Zaugg - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ccuYUx43E">Designing Your Own Life with Courtney Zaugg - YouTube</a></li><li><a title="Breaking Down Barriers: Courtney Zaugg - Breaking Down Barriers" rel="nofollow" href="https://player.captivate.fm/episode/557be634-6a9c-45fc-88fa-088c50d82a92">Breaking Down Barriers: Courtney Zaugg - Breaking Down Barriers</a></li><li><a title="The Pitchwerks Podcast: Pitchwerks #137 - Courtney Zaugg | Plaka" rel="nofollow" href="https://pitchwerks.libsyn.com/pitchwerks-137-courtney-zaugg-plaka">The Pitchwerks Podcast: Pitchwerks #137 - Courtney Zaugg | Plaka</a></li><li><a title="NEXT Studios - We are accelerators of innovation and entrepreneurship." rel="nofollow" href="https://nextstudios.org/">NEXT Studios - We are accelerators of innovation and entrepreneurship.</a></li><li><a title="Economic Development and Entrepreneurship | Plaka + Associates | United States" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.plakaassociates.com/">Economic Development and Entrepreneurship | Plaka + Associates | United States</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this riveting episode of the Econ Dev Show Podcast, host Dane Carlson chats with Courtney Zaugg, an industry expert in entrepreneurship and economic development. The two kick off their conversation with an exploration into the unique mindset of entrepreneurship, particularly the necessity of adaptability and the acceptance of failure. As they delve further, the discussion uncovers the limitations and inaccessibility of traditional venture capital for the majority of startups. Courtney offers insightful solutions, emphasizing the role of local banks and Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFIs) in helping startups become bankable. </p>

<p>The conversation also takes a turn towards economic development, where Courtney expresses optimism about the industry&#39;s evolution and advocates for systemic change, particularly in distressed and rural communities. She further discusses potential partnerships between philanthropy, economic development, and entrepreneurship, introducing &#39;impact funds&#39; as an innovative funding vehicle. Courtney insists on the importance of creating a well-structured entrepreneurial ecosystem and suggests practical steps communities can take to foster this development. The episode concludes with a discussion on the evolving landscape of higher education, and a reflection on Courtney&#39;s journey in pushing for systemic change.</p>

<p><a href="https://econdevshow.com/rate-this-podcast/" rel="nofollow">Like this show? Please leave us a review here</a> — even one sentence helps! </p><p>Special Guest: Courtney Zaugg.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.kathoderay.com">KathodeRay Media, Inc.</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.kathoderay.com">![KathodeRay](https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/f078f684-f72f-4a43-957d-de3aff69810b/pIhKskzG.jpg)

[KathodeRay](https://kathoderay.com) is a full-service marketing agency that connects government organizations to their community. This small (but mighty) woman owned and operated marketing agency can help your community thrive. They use tried and true methods that will connect your organization to your residents using social, digital and traditional media. [https://kathoderay.com](https://kathoderay.com)</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Courtney Zaugg, CEcD, EDP | LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneyzaugg/">Courtney Zaugg, CEcD, EDP | LinkedIn</a></li><li><a title="Courtney Zaugg, Founder to Founder - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyg1JxCAqQo">Courtney Zaugg, Founder to Founder - YouTube</a></li><li><a title="Ambassador Profile: Courtney Zaugg - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vd7OHgruUE">Ambassador Profile: Courtney Zaugg - YouTube</a></li><li><a title="Designing Your Own Life with Courtney Zaugg - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ccuYUx43E">Designing Your Own Life with Courtney Zaugg - YouTube</a></li><li><a title="Breaking Down Barriers: Courtney Zaugg - Breaking Down Barriers" rel="nofollow" href="https://player.captivate.fm/episode/557be634-6a9c-45fc-88fa-088c50d82a92">Breaking Down Barriers: Courtney Zaugg - Breaking Down Barriers</a></li><li><a title="The Pitchwerks Podcast: Pitchwerks #137 - Courtney Zaugg | Plaka" rel="nofollow" href="https://pitchwerks.libsyn.com/pitchwerks-137-courtney-zaugg-plaka">The Pitchwerks Podcast: Pitchwerks #137 - Courtney Zaugg | Plaka</a></li><li><a title="NEXT Studios - We are accelerators of innovation and entrepreneurship." rel="nofollow" href="https://nextstudios.org/">NEXT Studios - We are accelerators of innovation and entrepreneurship.</a></li><li><a title="Economic Development and Entrepreneurship | Plaka + Associates | United States" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.plakaassociates.com/">Economic Development and Entrepreneurship | Plaka + Associates | United States</a></li></ul>]]>
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